Car Magazine: M3 ennui

[monkeyboy]

The new M3 doesn't raise praise in all quarters. Ben Whitworth reckons it's lost its mojo

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[Ade]

1655kg!

 

[Stuart]

I hadn't thought about it before, but maybe the article has just made a good point.
Have they turned the M3 into what used to be an M5?

This constant trend of bigger and heavier means it needs more power, but may not be much better.

And it looks quite unappealing to me in the picture.

 

[Andrew]

according to the BMW press release the 1655KG is a wet weight (i.e. including fuel, and fluids), and includes 75KG for the driver + luggage...

http://www.m3forum.com/pressrelease/2007/the_new_bmw_m3_gb_fv.pdf

The 2002 press release makes no mention of allowing 75KG for the driver + luggage...

http://www.m3forum.com/pressrelease/2002/4.pdf

and 3415lb is in my book 1552KG.

1655-75 = 1580KG. so only 28KG more.....and 75BHP more....

 

[Ade]

Wow, my GT3 weighs in at 'only' 1370kg with 1/3 tank of fuel... plus 400+ horsies... the M3 needs to go on a diet!

 

[damian]

Even the new 135i Coupe weighs in 1560kg, are BMW engineering weight into these cars?

 

[Damon]

Why does everyone enjoy having a pop M3's so much?

Don't get me wrong I couldn't less bothered but its a definate trend

 

[damian]

Why does everyone enjoy having a pop M3's so much?

Don't get me wrong I couldn't less bothered but its a definate trend

I love M3's, the BMW design, the build, the spec but.....and it's a big but they are getting too big, Stuart hit the nail on the head with his current M3 = previous M5 analogy. Such a shame

 

[skitt]

It could weigh 2000kg and I would still have one

 

[jcremonini]

I can't say I'm enamoured with the new M3 either, but that guy Ben Whitworth has done himself no favours by having a beard now has he ?

James.

 

[Ade]

M3s are great cars with one of the world's best drivetrains, but the added weight means consumables will be even more expensive, and copious electronics required to attempt to reign in the physics of moving mass...

the cost of consumables on a 1400kg GT3 are bad enough... they can only get worse on a 1600+kg M3...

 

[damian]

I could weigh 2000kg and I would still have one

Would you still fit in one

 

[Jack]

Would you still fit in one

Heavy doesnt mean big... He could be made of Administratium or something...

 

[Andrew]

ah ha.

BMW offical blurb..

http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent001/BMW M3 details.pdf

3.8KG/HP.

its 420bhp, so 1596.0KG

not much more than the old one then. (1575KG)

 

[skitt]

Would you still fit in one

:finger with some vas I reckon I could slip in easily